Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: All right, all right. This is exciting. Theme song there.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: I feel like I should be smoking a cigarette and sipping some bourbon when that's playing.
[00:00:11] Speaker A: We are live from 304 Studios in Jonesboro, Arkansas. This is STSPOD Club Production. I'm BT and that's my buddy Gene. And we're going to answer. Was it really that good? Are you impressed that I'm actually remembering the name of the show?
[00:00:27] Speaker B: I am super impressed.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: Oh man.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: What are we doing like four, three or four of these so far since we've been back. So you're back in the rhythm now?
[00:00:36] Speaker A: Man, I am back in the rhythm. Today we're gonna be talking about. Well, there's. And that's part of it. There's so many names here, I'm not sure what to call him as. So everybody will know. I'm just gonna rattle this off just real quick. I've got 20 names, I think. So he was, he was a team. Number two, Big Tex Congroy, Frasier Ed Younger, Farmer Boy Frasier Giant. Frasier Giant. Hillbilly. Hillbilly Elmer Cala 2. My favorite pas. How you pronounce that?
[00:01:15] Speaker B: Plow Boy, Mississippi.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Plowboy Frasier.
Plow Boy Playboy Frazier. Plowboy Fraser, Tex Frazier the convict, the country Plow Boy the Giant Rebel. Tiny Fraser. Tiny the Plow Boy. The Long Ranger. My favorite by the way, Uncle Elmer. And I've got Lieutenant Frazier. So there you go, about 20 there.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Wow. They thought Brutus Beefcake had a lot of names.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: One of. One of these guys, you know what we did was you and I was doing these shows on some of the worst shows it seemed that we. I could pick out.
And then we did one on Dream Machine, Kevin Steen Snowman.
And as we we're talking now, hopefully the fabs when I've already put it out. So that seems that people like us talking about, you know, just one person and kind of what we think about them. It's getting better plays and, and I don't know why, I mean, you know, it's a WCW pay per view and it sucks. So that's probably has something to do with it.
But when I say Plowboy Frazier, what's the first thing comes in your mind?
[00:02:31] Speaker B: The first thing that pops in my mind. So when I was a kid, the local video store had a Best of Jerry the King Lawler Volume one and two. And so Volume two was called the Early Years.
And there was a promo on there. Jerry Lawler, Sam Bass and Plowboy Frazier are out there doing a Promo with, I think it was Lance Russell. It may have been the other guy, I'm not sure.
But Lawler's talking about the match that's going on. And in the background you see Plowboy is cutting up a watermelon. He splits it across the desk and he hands it to Lawler and he, and Lawler's like, he tells, I think it was have been Dave Brown actually. But he told whoever the announcer was like, hey, you better eat some of this. This is a big deal to him. And so now he's eating watermelon as he's cutting the promo. And I just always Picture the big 6 foot 10, nearly 500 pound guy in overalls eating watermelon with it running down his face doing a promo. And that's, that's what comes to mind when you say Plowboy Frazier, obviously when you say Uncle Elmer. I picture him and Hillbilly Jim and the WWF and him getting married and all that, which I'm sure we'll get to.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: But. All right, how about this? How about this, Gene? Let's show everybody. Or they can sit and listen. Doing the audio version.
This is exactly the angle or the promo that you talk. This is fun. Give you kind of an idea about what was going on with Lawler and Frasier.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: Here he comes, Jerry the King Lawler, manager Sam Bass. And they got their new partner with them, Plowboy Fraser.
Gary. Sam, how you doing? How you doing?
[00:04:06] Speaker C: How you doing today, Dave?
[00:04:08] Speaker A: Doing all right so far.
[00:04:09] Speaker C: This, I want you to realize that this is one of the premier days in my career so far. Do you realize what is about to happen today?
[00:04:20] Speaker B: No.
[00:04:20] Speaker C: Have you told the people about what kind of match I'm fixing to be in?
[00:04:23] Speaker B: You're going to be in a championship match against Tommy Rich after last week.
[00:04:29] Speaker C: Wait a minute, Frazier. Oh, okay.
Don't mind him, don't mind him. After all the little things, after all the, after all trinkets and things that I bought him and all the favors I've done for him. He, he's asked me time and time again if there isn't something he could do for me. And this. Thank you, thank you, Frazier. Thank you very much. And to him this is, this is.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: Let me cut it.
[00:04:54] Speaker C: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
You better eat it because to him.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: This is a big deal.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Look how young Dave Brown looks, baby.
[00:05:04] Speaker C: You're looking at the garbage man. We're going to eliminate the trash in professional wrestling. There's a lot trash running around here like Big John Bearcat Brown. Things like that and Mikalotic. Fast falling right into the category of trash and garbage men. Eliminate trash. And that's what we're going to do. You know, you remember a few years ago when you had a little trash problem down in Philadelphia, Mississippi?
[00:05:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember what you do to it. Well, I got my bulldozer and I put them underneath that pond down there in Philadelphia, down in county, baby.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: We going to eliminate the trash in professional wrestling. And you're looking right now, ladies and gentlemen, at your new Southern Heavyweight champion. Now wait a.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Before we leave, Dave, let's see you.
[00:05:46] Speaker C: Take a bite of that watermelon.
[00:05:47] Speaker B: Just. I'm not sure.
[00:05:49] Speaker C: Go ahead, Dave.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: That's a big no there, Dave.
[00:05:55] Speaker C: Say before, how is the watermelon?
It's great in it, baby.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: I don't trust it, but it's pretty good.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: Tricky to get Lawler, I tell you. All right. Yes. That kind of gives everyone an idea of.
And this is. I'm going to start with this angle and I may go back and say some other stuff about him, but we, me and you both look for this angle. But a lot of people talk about it and I've never seen it, I guess, or just people talked about it.
And Lawler was given Frazier a bunch of stuff because Fraser was like his.
If someone came after him, he would always be fr. He would send Fraser to beat them up because he was smaller than Fraser kind of thing and he bought him diamond rings.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: He was the diesel to Lawler.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: Shawn Michaels, I guess, I guess that's pretty damn scary to his mjf.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Whatever.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And then so he, Jared comes out and says hey, those aren't real. And, and apparently on live tv when he tries to hammer it and show him it's not real, that the diamond shoots out under the ring. So they had to go get the diamond.
But they, that's where they start dispute against each other. And when Lawler's talking here, he talks about that.
These things, I'm getting him these things. So this is all part of a, a big ruse from Lawler.
So in my research I found a lot. I said something to you before we started recording, but. But he apparently he was that shoot, he is as hillbilly as there, there ever was. Right?
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean that's how the, the story goes that I guess Stan Fraser, which is his real name, had did a little bit of wrestling somewhere around in Mississippi or whatever. But the story goes that Lawler legitimately just was traveling down through, you know, the Delta in Mississippi, going to a Show and came across Frasier and like, oh my God, this guy's huge. And him and Jerry Jarrett, you know, brought him into Memphis and made him, you know, Plowboy Frazier. But it wasn't a stretch, you know, it wasn't, wasn't like they, they found some guy and turned him into a hill. You know, over the years, every big guy with little to no wrestling ability was turned into a hillbilly. But no, this was just a hillbilly they actually put into the ring that was 100% issued. As far as everything that I've heard and for what I hear everything you've heard from people who knew him and worked with him, what you saw on camera was what you got.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: That was exactly. That was him. Guys, that's, I mean, like you said, neighbor. I'll tell you what. Neighbor. And you have people, I have people say, hey man, hey, hey man. I heard that a bunch of times. But neighbor is something we would say in the south too. Frazier actually, and this is so funny, but had went to California first as the convict and he was wrestling in California. And some of the Japanese guys were coming, were coming over in work in California because they like staying in California. And they let, I believe it was Anoki know, hey, there's this six foot, blah blah blah, or seven foot, blah blah blah. And Anoki brought him to Japan.
Now I don't see any matches. I couldn't find any matches, but I heard the story.
But he was never invited back. Now I'm not, I'm not saying his customers were great because a lot of guys go to Japan and hate it. So that's possibility there. But it probably has something to do with his work rate.
And people are going to say, well, you know, and I got a little bit of stuff from.
This is one. Let me, let me share this.
Now this is something I had never seen. I don't.
I know you. You probably do you try. Did you trade tapes?
Okay, so we had this tape trading thing where, you know, you've seen all the old Memphis is what you thought with the vhs. But what's happened is all these people who.
All these people that we were actually trading with was the only people that was doing vhs. But the, but there was a bunch of other people that were recording, but they weren't sharing it with anybody. They weren't trading it with anybody. I think this is kind of a representative, Let me get it going here of actually some of the way he moved and this is the 70s, it was much better than, than when he Was Uncle Elmer. So let's take a backdrop.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: And Fraser takes him down.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Waller hollering for Frasier to slam him, takes him up almost with one hand.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: He pounds him down.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: Fraser whoops him across the ring.
Not bad, not bad.
[00:11:12] Speaker B: He was a lot more mobile in the 70s. I mean, have you seen some of the stuff from Georgia?
[00:11:24] Speaker A: All right, all right. That's extremely loud. Jesus.
What did you say? I didn't hear what you said there.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: He's a lot more mobile in some of that older stuff from the. The 70s and early, early 80s.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: I. I know he did the leg drop too.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Apparently he got real Georgia, where he was tagging with, like, Robert Fuller against the Free Birds. And, you know, a few matches there way different than what you saw the Uncle Elmer days. And then of course, the later Memphis stuff, Kamala too, and Playboy, Frazier and all that different stuff.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: But I thought it was so funny that this guy in.
Went to Georgia Championship Wrestling, I guess it was around 84 or 85, and won the tag team belts from the Pre birds with Ted DiBiase. What the hell were they thinking?
[00:12:16] Speaker B: You know, that was. I think they held it for like a week or something. It was. It was a. It was a very quick thing, but.
And I think it had to been earlier than that because he was ELMER in like 85 and 86. I'm thinking that probably had to be, what, 82 or three maybe somewhere.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: Maybe. Maybe he said he was a little.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: More mobile then, but nothing like what you just saw there. But he's. He was an interesting. He was an interesting guy. I think it's funny that, you know, you made mention of the Lawler promo there where, you know, Lawler was giving him, quote unquote, trinkets and costume jewelry and all this. And then he later became infamous for selling that stuff in the dressing room to other wrestlers, you know, the Folex and all those types things that became his deal. He would carry that stuff around and try to sell it to the wrestlers in the. In the background.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah, they would. Yeah, I've heard Dutch tell the story.
Ricky Morton was telling a story too, where he would come in and, you know, put everything. Put everything down on, you know, in the dress room and say, neighbor, I got some. I got some watches here. And then he would try to sell them for a hundred dollars. You know, these are real things. And then he had a suit shop or something or boot shop or something at one time. Yeah. And everybody was.
Everybody was scared to buy them because they was afraid that. That, you know, they just wasn't good quality. I know that surprises you, but I think because he is.
And both, you know, both Dutch, Dutch said this and, and. And Ricky Morton actually said that he didn't have a problem working him because he could bump all over him and, and Fraser would bump him real hard. He would just bump. And Dutch said his IQ is, is. It was really, really low. So that even made it worse, you know, if you're in the ring with somebody like that.
I found all kinds of like really interesting. That convict going to Japan was an interesting.
Did you. Did you come across why Vince never wanted him to wrestle Andre?
[00:14:28] Speaker B: I remember I mentioned all fair that, you know, I did some. I don't even remember. I can't remember for the life of me why, but I did some studying on him years ago and I remember seeing some stories about that, but I don't really remember the exact context of it. So refresh my memory.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Vince didn't want him to wrestle Andre because he was so shitty in the ring and Andre was too at the time.
But that was kind of, that was kind of Frasiers and they're close to the same size, so you didn't really want anyone to see that. Andre and Stan was the same size there, but also he was scared, you know, because they both sucked. It would be a shitty match. Vince is a huge hillbilly gimmick fan and as you could tell, he's done a lot of stuff. But that was one of Stan's dream matches. He really, really wanted to work. Andre never got the chance.
They did a match. I thought this was interesting. But he lost his hair.
But he lost it in Louisville, Kentucky. And the reason why it was Louisville is they wanted to.
Memphis was drawn good, but Louisville wasn't drawn as well.
So it was Lawler against him in Louisville with the, with Fraser's hair on the line. So he lost his hair in Louisville? In Louisville.
Oh. Cornette tells a story where he brought mason jars that had cologne in them.
He said he bought cologne by the gallon is what he said.
There's all kinds of. How tall really was he?
I think he was billed as 7 foot 4, over £400. I'm really not sure. But most people say 6, 4, 6, 5.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: I've heard anywhere from 6, 5 to 6, 10, I guess. And I mean when you look at him like in that last clip we saw, I mean, I think he's probably more than 6 4.
I thought he's probably closer to 6, 5, 6, 6 maybe. I don't know. But he definitely was.
You know, you mentioned Andre and you know, by all accounts Andre was not a great worker. You know, he, he was, he, he much like Stan, was more mobile in his younger days, but in the territory days, you know, he was an attraction and so you could move him around about the territories and it was something to come see and then you saw it and you didn't need to see it again for a while. And same, you know, Plowboy could have kind of been the same way because people ask, you know, like, God, why did they do all those stupid gimmicks with him in Memphis? Well, once you've paid to see the, the giant hillbilly a couple of times, but he's in the territory. If you're going to keep bringing him in, you got to change the presentation. That's why he was, you know, a playboy. That's why he was in the army and that's why he was a Kamala too, of all things.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: He was different than Andre. And you're right, he was different. He would come into the territory and stay.
Andre was just.
I remember Andre being in Memphis in a six man tag. He did some, something I think in ICW with Ronnie Garvin. They did one show where Ronnie beat him by DQ or something. I think there's also a Lawler Andre match out there somewhere and I can't remember.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a famous story where, you know, we won't go too far down that road. But you know, there was the famous story where after took pictures of the match with, I think Lawler might have even body slammed him or something and. But he ended up winning by dq and they ran a story in PWI that he beat, that he beat Lawler beat Andre and it was a big issue at the NWA convention that year and I guess Vince Senior got pretty, pretty pissed at Lawler about it and Jarrett and the whole thing.
But you know, that was Lawler's thing back in the day. You know, they would always run those clips.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Well, him and after were friends. We're, we're great friends. So yeah, it had a lot to do with who, you know, we talked to. After a little bit he didn't want to reveal everything, but it really did have a, have to do with who was friends and not friends. All right, we're going to take quick commercial break. If you're watching us on Patreon, you can see all the clips. You don't have to actually just hear them.
And if you watch a video, you don't get a Commercial. So real quick commercial break. We'll right back. Was it really that good? Right back with Jean Jackson. Jean, as we're talking about these things about, like I said, Ricky Morton actually has a story. He was talking to somebody. Brazer had knocked himself out completely. And it had something to do with the dressing room because he hit the top of the. The dress room and fell and knocked himself out.
And then Cornet tells a story where he's going for the leg drop and then he just loses his balance or the rings real bouncy. And it's just. He lands right on the back of his head for the leg drop, you know, right in the middle of the match. So he had a lot of those where he just. Just clumsy, maybe that's the best word. Or, you know, clumsy. And, you know, I've always been a fat guy, so I don't have well balanced.
When I was a kid, I would always turn my ankle at least three or four times a year.
But.
But one. I'm gonna end talking about the Cornet stuff. But Cornet tells a story, but he don't tell the whole story. But it actually.
Frazier brought into the dressroom. I've talked to a couple people about this.
He brought into the dressroom some Polaroids.
He had, took some pictures, and he was. Passed them around showing all the guys, you know, in the dressing room. Like, you know, we. We do that with our phones now.
We take pictures and we show things on our phone. But this was him having sex.
He. He with a.
So there you go.
Apparently she was on his lap, and it Cornet said, look like a big growth.
But, you know, I mean, a guy that size, you gotta think, you know, I mean, you know, they don't call Kevin Nash big sexy. Just big sexy, you know, for a reason. So you think maybe. But it was a complete shoot. He had the pictures, like seven or eight of them, showing everybody the Polaroids. If anybody has one of those Polaroids out there, I'll. I'll look at it. Send it to me. Yeah, no, no, you send it to me.
He's into that. I'm not really into midgets, but you know what I hear?
[00:21:18] Speaker B: I hear the more you progress into weird porn, the weirder it has to get for it to work. And so I. I feel like once you've looked at Uncle Elmer and A, you've hit the wall. Like, where do you.
Don't get any weirder than that. Let's just wrap it up.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: So we were fans of Memphis wrestling. We knew who plowboy Frasier was what we called him all the time. I did. But all of a sudden he shows up in wwe. What was your thoughts when you saw him in wwe?
[00:21:54] Speaker B: I was shot. Of all the people that come out of Memphis to end up on wwe, I was probably most shocked to see him because by that time, I mean, his mobility was. Was pretty well gone. I mean, and what's crazy is, so he was brought. So Hillbilly Jim was brought, you know, Harley Davidson in Memphis. And he comes to WWF as Hillbilly Jim and does pretty well. He catches on. He's perfect character for cartoons and all the stuff, you know, Vince was doing at the time he breaks his leg, he's gonna happen to be a manager. So they're like, all right, well, we're gonna bring in a couple of hillbillies for him to manage. So they bring in Uncle Elmer and Cousin Junior and cousin. The other cousin, whatever.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: Cousin Luke.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Cousin Luke.
But, you know, you would think in a perfect world, like, all right, well, Uncle Elmer would be the hillbilly just standing at ringside that people go like, oh, my God, he's huge. Look at that guy. But no, Hillbilly Jim's having to stand out on the ring, the one that can kind of work out of the bunch. And Uncle Elmer's in there trying to have matches, like, you know, I remember that match he had with Adrian Adonis at WrestleMania 2, and Adrian just trying to bump, bump all around him and create excitement around him, and he's barely mobile. And then of course, that infamous Saturday night's main event match, which is, I believe, what got him fired from WWF in the end.
But from what all accounts.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: Tell me about that. Tell me about the infamous. Because I, I'm. I didn't have that down from, from what I.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: From what I understand, and I think it's pretty well documented and shoot interviews and different things.
They. They scheduled. So they're on. I think they're in the build of one of Hogan's feuds. And so they're, They're. They're building it up with Bundy.
And so they want Bundy to beat Uncle Elmer on Saturday night's main event.
And they tell Elmer like, okay, well, you're going to put over Bundy on Saturday night's main event. And he's like, no, I'm not, neighbor. And he refuses to do it. And so Hillbilly Jim is just about ready to come back from his injury. And so. And this is the last place I heard it was a hillbilly Jim interview Hillbilly Jim. They say they contact him. Like, hey, we need you on a plane. We have got to get you out here for this Saturday night's main event taping. Uncle Elmer's refusing to put over Bundy, and we got to get you there. And Hillbilly Gym said they spent all this money to get a limo to pick him up, take him, put him on a private jet, they fly him across the country. They get him there, and he gets to the hotel, and they're like, okay, you can just go to your room. And he's like, what? It's like, well, Elmer finally agree. I guess he was just holding out for money. He agreed to go ahead and. And put Bundy over if they pay him some more money. He's like, so you don't have to go to the show. He's like, so they. They paid out all this money to get me across the country to be at this show. Now they got me put up in a hotel. They had to pay Elmer extra money.
And so just like the old warrior thing from SummerSlam, Bundy beats Elmer on Saturday night's main event. And of course, when it's over, you're fired, and his ass is going back to Memphis Hillbilly Elmer.
And that was his exit from wwf.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: Oh, my God. So we. One of the things was. And this was a legit deal, he was married on Saturday night's main event, the second show there. He was married to Joyce Starco or Star Code. But that was a. That was a shoot, right?
[00:25:25] Speaker B: Yes. He was married to her till the day he died. They were still married at the point he passed away.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: That's absolutely crazy, man. That's crazy. And it probably was one of those things, you know.
Well, they're gonna pay for the wedding. I don't give a neighbor.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: I mean, I remember Piper asked him on Piper's Pit, like, why are you getting married on national tv? And he's like, why wouldn't I get married on national television? Yeah.
And he had the big gimmick where he had the Uncle Elmer's fried chicken parts or whatever.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: Yes, yes, I remember that bucket.
I think that came from Heart because they did something where they were all at a picnic on the first family, you know, remember, Hard had already went to the wwe. And I don't know the story. I'd have to, you know, bring Jimmy on and talk to him. But most people, the Legends per se, tell me they think Hart got Harley Davidson a job. And then when they ask, you got somebody else? He Recommended Frazier.
So that might be Jimmy Hart's fault. The Frazier got a job in the wwe?
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah, because Hillbilly Jim said in that same interview before he told the story I just told that he was told because, you know, he just came from Memphis. He knew. He knew Frazier from Memphis. And they're like, hey, we're gonna have something for you to do while you're injured. You're going to manage Uncle Elmer and Cousin Luke. And he's like, who's Uncle Elmer? And they're like, stan Frazier. And he's like, what?
Really?
Yeah, we're bringing him up. I'm like, okay.
So, yeah, that had to be Jimmy Hart, right?
[00:27:08] Speaker A: I mean, it had to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: He kept a job after that. It's like, jimmy, how.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Where'd you get this redneck?
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Was that a rib?
[00:27:22] Speaker A: Apparently, during the. Sir, I don't remember this. I should have went back and watched the ceremony. Jesse Ventura, as part of the deal, heckled Frazier from his position at the announcer's table. He later read a poem and Vince had told him, bury that. Bury him in the poem. And during the ceremony. That's what he told him to do. That's what he was supposed to do during.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: During the kiss. You may K the bride. His line was, it looks like two carp kissing in the bottom of the Mississippi River.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: I know that. Me and you know what the Mississippi river is. We know what a carp is. That had to be directed right to him because he was a Southern hick and he knew exactly what he was talking about.
Just, ah, Vince is evil. He died.
See, he died in. At age 54 from the diabetes. And that was. And I can't even get the date on it, but he. It's been. It's. I think it was 1992. Yeah, 1992.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: July 1st. So we're.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: Yep, yep.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Not far from the anniversary of that.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah, Whatever that is. Do the math. I can't do the math.
He was born in Philadelphia, Mississippi. You've been in Philadelphia, Mississippi.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: I have wrestled in Philadelphia, Mississippi, multiple times.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: I've been through there.
So him and his wife lived in Biloxi, Mississippi.
Kidney failure due to diabetes.
And he had. Here's what I thought was so funny in the WWE is that he actually did wrestle Popper and Orton in a big feud. So. And you're talking about Adonis trying to have a good match with him.
He worked. After he left, he worked as a giant hillbilly Elmer and they. He actually tagged with Lawler to win the tag team straps in 86.
Then he went to Continental, working. I guess he's working for Fuller then, right? Fuller was there.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah. It would have been Fuller's deal at the time.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: And they did some. They did some Super Heavyweight Championship. I don't remember that.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: But, yeah, like, him and the Mighty Goliath passed that belt back and forth.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: Who was the Mighty Goliath?
[00:29:47] Speaker B: I forget where he came from. He went on to become Moondog Cujo, I believe. Oh, really became a Moondog later in his career, which I didn't know that for a long time.
I just remember him coming in with Fred Otman, Big Bubba and Goliath with Downtown Bruno.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Man, that was. That was a real bad time, Memphis wrestling. It was eight. That would have been an 86, I think, or 87. And they had had 83, 84, 85 was real hot. And then it just started.
Well, heart left and there was a lot of stuff going on there, but some of the people that they brought it. And you know, Downtown Bruno might know who this guy is, and hell, he might have had something to do with it. Here is a fact that you may not know.
He was involved. Involved in the training of hardcore. Holly Fraser was.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:30:45] Speaker A: You know what that reminded me of is. And you know just as much as I do, when you have one of the wrestlers in your area, most of the time it's from Mississippi that cannot wrestle. And then they want to open a wrestling school and train people.
Is that crazy or what?
[00:31:05] Speaker B: I don't even know what to say to that, honestly. Like, I know I did that one. That one got by me. That's. That's fun.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: Oh, in the wrestling Observer. Well, he got two big awards.
The worst tag team in 1985 was Cousin Junior. And also in 1985, worst wrestler. So there you go, Stan Fraser. I don't know if we can.
As much as we talk, I think we can answer this.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: And I just remember before. Before you get to that. I'm sorry.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: Okay, okay, okay.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: Not to step on the high spot.
[00:31:39] Speaker A: No, no, go ahead, go ahead.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: It just occurred to me, I misspoke. Goliath was Moondog Splat.
Oh, one of the hillbillies. I think it was Junior.
He was. He was Cujo, I believe. But anyway, Goliath. Goliath and one of the hillbilly cousins from WWF went on to be moondogs in Memphis.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: Yes, Lanny King. And that was. Yeah, that was Cousin Junior. You're right about that. You're right about that.
And it said Uncle Elmer's Fried Pig Parts was A big bucket. Now that was. That's trivia, too. I love that. Pig parts.
Yeah. I mean, if you said fried P. Belly, I might do that.
So let me see if there's anything else.
Oh, yeah, there was something else he did.
He was. Made an appearance as himself on an Andy Kaufman special on PBS in 1983.
Drinking raw eggs.
I have no idea what that.
[00:32:49] Speaker B: I remember seeing a clip of that at some point.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: Oh, I have to try to find that.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: It's. It's out there.
You may have to watch the whole special to find it. But.
Okay, so I mentioned this a couple times, but you didn't really did, have you? Do you remember, like, I watched the clip this past week? Kamala, too.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: Oh, we talked about this. Yeah, I mentioned Kamala too, but.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we mentioned it, but we didn't really.
[00:33:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember the angle around that. I really don't.
[00:33:19] Speaker B: It really wasn't much of an angle. It was just Jimmy Hart had come out and said, next week I'm going to have not just Kamala, but I'm gonna have Kamala too as well. And it kind of build like a week long suspense. And so the next week, Jimmy Hart comes. All right, baby, we got Kamala and Kamala too. And you hear. And I'm pretty sure it's genuine, you hear Lance Russell and Dave start chuckling. And Lance Russell's like, okay, apparently Plowboy Frazier is Kamala too.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: That's not. That's not Plowboy, baby.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: That's Kamala too. And then Lawler comes out, he gets on commentary and mocks him on commentary. And again, it's just one of those things where it's like, all right, we got this big dude. What, you know, Playboy Frazier was him coming out with like a gold chain with a big Playboy bunny on the back and all this kind of stuff. But Kamala, too. I had read about that for years before I actually saw it. I didn't see. I didn't actually see. And I actually tape traded for one tape specifically, because I was like, I gotta see this. How far they went.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: I remember he was painted up.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: He had the skirt and the whole night.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: I just.
I was in.
Since Kamala started in Memphis and I've heard all kinds of stories about. I mean, I met him a couple times in dressing room, which.
The thing that got me is I had met him in a show in Mississippi and he was doing the makeup. And that's the first time I'd ever met him. And it was just Here's a guy that I've been watching as a kid, and I was just in awe. And he was like, how's it going, brother? And I was like, he's talking. You know, I mean, it really was. It's like the first time I heard Abby talk.
But Kamala made some money, buddy. There's the difference between him and Ploy. Fraser is Kamala too. But he made money every territory he went to. Wwe, whatever you want to say, he made the money. And that was kind of. His story is that he not gimmicks.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: And criticize guys who were just gimmicks. But Sugar Bear Harris would have never had a run on top with Hulk Hogan in the wwe. Never.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: Never.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: But Kamala hit every territory in the country. I mean, you go back and watch tapes. He was in World Class. He was in Mid Atlantic. He was down in Florida. He was.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: I mean, he did Big Gates and Silver Dome and Big South. He was part of Big Gates.
Just a big. Just a. That might be one of our futures. Well, let's go ahead.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Whether it's racism or not like that dude, it's a shame that he didn't have more at the end of his life than what he had. What he.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: Well, you know, they say it's kind of the thing. He just didn't have the business sense. He didn't know what he should be getting for certain things. And guys like Hogan was making X amount of money and he was making, you know, a third of it. And it's the same thing that happened with Stan. Stan just. And. And even though that was uncharacteristic of him, what he did, because he was pretty much, well, I'm just here to wrestle kind of thing and sell and. And sell gimmicks in the back to the boys. So that was why he was there.
[00:36:31] Speaker B: That's where I make my money, brother.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: Hell yeah.
[00:36:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Hell yeah.
I just keep thinking about neighbor. I think I'm making a T shirt that says neighbor on it.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Howdy, neighbor.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: All right, Gene, let them know. What do you think? Was it really that great or good?
[00:36:51] Speaker B: See, you jinxed yourself.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: I did jinx one more time. Let me see. Take two. Was it really that good?
[00:36:58] Speaker B: I have labored over this one. Usually I know when you tell me who we're doing, I know what my answer is before I even do the research.
I. I went back and forth on this one because I mean, if work rate wise, you know, match quality wise, no, it wasn't good. But for a 6 foot, however tall 400, 500 pound man playing a character and all that.
I think he was probably as good as he could be.
But all said and done, I guess I'm gonna have to say no, I wasn't really.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: No, I'm the same way with you. I am a firm believer in wrestling features. Everything, the monsters, the comedy, the whatever, they just all about work. Great.
But he was fun.
He was fun for, like, I don't know, it's three gimmicks. But after a while, he was just a joke to us, too, as. As kids, he was a joke, and I was just like, not a fan of. When he went to wwe, I just groaned. I was just like, yeah. And I had just become.
I had just become a smart fan. I knew everything, by the way, Gene, in 1985 and 1986, because I read the Observer. I knew everything. Yeah. So I had just. And it kind of. I've talked about this before, but it kind of affected the way, you know, I saw wrestling in the sense that that community or that newsletter would say, you know, Hulk Hogan sucks. And Hulk Hogan was making so much money, doing so much great stuff, but that was one of the guys they really on. But I was so tired of him because he'd been in Memphis and he was bad. He was bad. So I'm gonna say, yeah, for comedy, maybe I had fun. He is part of my wrestling childhood, though, that we're. If I said his name to all my friends, you know, from childhood, from. From when we grew up watching Memphis wrestling, they would know exactly who I was talking about and they would have a story about him. So you can't say that about every wrestler that.
That's been available. So, I mean, especially guys in Memphis, so many people that came out of Memphis, people enjoyed those stupid things that Lawler was doing with it.
[00:39:18] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:18] Speaker A: All right, guys. Say bad time. Same bad channel. On the best little wrestling podcast in the bed. Nice.
Be there and. Hold on, Gene, tell us what you're doing. Give. Give them your website, whatever.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: You can check out the main event comedy dot com. That's where we got all our silliness over there. We're doing comedy shows every month in Anniston, Alabama, and other places. We got some big comedy competitions starting up August 19th.
And all of our. All our video clips, we got a Patreon you can check out, but we always put clips of it up of really bad wrestling, featuring commentary from Whitey Jenkins and others. And you can check those out on our Facebook page. Facebook.com Main Event Comedy.
[00:40:06] Speaker A: All right. Did I say be there? Why not be there? And as everyone knows, I love my mama.
